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Tim Minear: Miscellaneous Posts

17/8/01 - Niall:

P.S. Someone remind me who the quote in my sig is from - I'm fairly certain it's one of the new Angel writers, but I can't remember which, and I foolishly forgot the attribution when I added it.

"My little teeny piece of advice is, anything Tim Minear tells you or suggests you, you should listen. The man is a genius."

24/8/01 - TM: I'm pretty sure I said it.
24/8/01 - TM: I'm kidding.

7/9/01 - natalie: Which Angel character are you? See this page.

7/9/01 - TM:

That explains a lot.

  1. Angel
  2. Fred
  3. Cordelia
  4. Lindsay
  5. Lorne, the Host
  6. Wesley
  7. Darla
  8. Gunn
7/9/01 - Niall: [re: episode titles] Yeah. He nicked 'Through The Looking Glass', too. No originality, that man...
7/9/01 - TM: It's true. As noted here, my first L&C ep was "Brutal Youth", nicked from the title of an Elvis Costello album. I've used "I've Got You Under My Skin" twice, as you know, and my first ever produced tv script was for a show called "The New Adventures Of Zorro" and that ep was called "Sanctuary."
17/10/01 - Tim: You know how you used to write for 'Lois and Clark', right?
TM: How I used to write for Lois and Clark? Mostly in my underwear with a large tub of ice cream. What's it to ya?
Tim: Did you have anything to do with Supes and Lois getting it on and eventually marrying? Or was that something from on high that the writers had to accommodate?
TM: By the time I got there, in the last season, it was going to happen. I did write the first post-love-making scene after the wedding... it took place on the ceiling of Clark's apartment.
Tim: Aaaaaanyway, would you care to say something wantonly controversial that we can discuss and argue about? You know, being as we're a bit short of new material to mull over in inordinate detail and be slightly strange about. It can be obscure, personally insulting, a treatise on the controversial nature of genetically manipulating goats, or something entirely relevent to 'Angel' that you wouldn't tell to anyone but your bestest newsgroup buddies.
TM: Seems like on another board I suggested that men and women are different and, much to my surprise, this turned into some kind of controversial firestorm, so let's see... I'll just keep my trap shut.
Tim: Or maybe just what exactly the writing staff think of 'I Fall To Pieces'
TM: Can't speak for the "writing staff", but I thought it kinda sucked.
Tim: Is ['I Fall To Pieces'] or is it not better than 'Belonging'? That sort of thing.
TM: I sort of liked "Belonging."
TM [As his spoiler space]: I love Tony Blair.
26/10/01 - Niall: Why's that, then?
TM:

Real leadership and, it seems to me, honestly held principles, resolve and an almost romantic idealism about how the world could be.

And for me as an American, sometimes it seems like we've no real friends in this world, but Mister Blair makes it plain that isn't so.

25/11/01 - Richard: "Please allow me to advise that Sky One have no immediate plans to broadcast [S3] in widescreen."
TM: Yikes. I know that in my last ep, for example, I had characters so far on the edges of the screen that if they don't show it letterboxed, the audience will be asking themselves, "where're those voices coming from?"
26/11/01 - Niall: For the first time, I think [David Hines] is just Wrong about most things. Normally if I disagree with his review, I have to admit that his comments are valid, but I think he gives them too much weight (FFL being the obvious example). [N.B. The post this excerpt comes from refers to David Hines' review of S3-09. It does not, however, contain any actual content spoilers for that episode.]
TM: Hunh. Me too. Weird.
27/11/01 - Niall: You don't say? :-)
27/11/01 - Mattia: That's so....weird.
TM:

Well, well. I have to say here that I do admire Hines' reviews. (And I've met the man and like him a lot in person. Jane Espenson and I were guests at Dragoncon coupla years back and David was terribly hospitable -- I'd break bread with him again in a nano second.)

I think he does a nice job with his reviews and it's always satisfying to see anyone taking the show seriously enough to spend time writing about it.

And I like the fact that he can loathe and detest something -- sort of validates his past praise, if you get what I'm saying. In terms of his integrity, I mean.

It also kind of invalidates it at the same time, since I feel like he could have ripped into any of the past eps that he *liked* just as easily. Especially since he's comparing me to me and saying that "Minear does this" and "Minear does that, and based on what Minear does, this is all wrong." Uh, okay. Being, well, Minear, hard for me to see it, exactly. Seems to me the ep he's loathing is pretty much just another "Minear" ep. Kinda like the ones he liked were, too.

After about fifty hours of television that I've written, it's kinda me just doing what I do.

Think I'll just keep doing that.

TM:

Just wanna be clear about something -- when I said that David Hines' praise is "invalidated" I didn't in any way mean that his point of view is not valid or that he's "wrong." I happen to think he's a very smart guy who has terrific perception. My comment was meant strictly and only from *my* point of view -- in terms of what he says having validity *for the guy that he's criticizing.*

If that makes the least bit of sense.

Let me see if I can use words to transmit ideas...

From the point view of the writer, me, since I don't agree with what he's saying in his latest review which happens to be a slam, it sort of obligates me to season with salt any head-swelling praise from him for past efforts. To not be sober about this, as the writer, would be crazy making.

I kind of have a unique relationship to his reviews of my own work that others would not have. And no matter what any viewer's individual tastes may be, I gotta just keep churning out the junk food.

[There was a little bit more to this exchange, which can be found in the S3 questions section. Don't look unless you've seen up to 3x03, in this case.]

15/01/02 - Reality: This seems to happen to any series.. the writers get complacent.. they think they have have a fan base, so they can feed them any old crap..
TM:

Clearly you've never had the pleasure of enjoying a really *good* hamburger.

Never been to the UK, but the burgers in NZ were atrocious. Could be they'd never heard of real ketchup. They thought tomato sauce was the same thing.

16/01/02 - pikelet:I'm tempted to ask Tim Minear whether he uses catsup/ketchup, whether they're the same thing, and if not what the heck the difference is, but I think that may be trivialising the whole 'writer/producer appears on fan forum' concept.
TM: "ketchup" and "catsup" do appear to be the same thing, yes. Neither is tomato sauce.
16/01/02 - Niall: Hey! I ordered a cheeseburger! [It makes sense in context, really...]
TM: When I lived in NZ I ordered a "cheeseburger with nothing on it" at a take-away. I got home, opened and the bun -- cheese, no actual burger. Just a cheese sand, really. Er -- when I said "nothing"...
27/02/02 - Mattia: [Re: S2 DVDs, and the presence of only two commentaries] Looks like a nice package, I'll buy it, most def (gonna start looking for the best price soon...), but I was, honestly, hoping for more.
27/02/02 - Dan Milburn: What I'd really like would be restoration of some of the scenes that were cut for time, of which we know there are many. That seems unlikely to ever happen though.
27/02/02 - TM: It'll happen on the season 3 set. I've culled a bunch of stuff and am working with the DVD guys now.
27/02/02 - Niall: Well, that's made my day. Don't suppose there's any chance of more than two commentaries, as well?
27/02/02 - TM: For some reason, two is what they've asked for again. I'll ask and see why just the two.
27/02/02 - Mattia: Yeah, six or so would hit the spot...although I won't say no to 22...
27/02/02 - TM: Sorry, but I'm not sitting through "TOGOM" again. Nunh-unh.
28/02/02 - Tim: Were you really that unhappy with it?
28/02/02 - TM: Oh, yeah.
02/03/02 - Debra [? - post not archived on Google, in reference to this.] It was an attempt to amuse.
02/03/03 - TM:

Worked for me.

However, I looked at those clips, not getting sound on the computer at the moment and (my hope is that this has something to do with the fact that...) I look insane [especially on the 'Sanctuary' clip - Ed]. What gives?

02/03/02 - Debra: Sounds there. Fear not. You came across.... manly and virile.
02/03/02 - TM: Just had to include the elipse, didn'tcha?

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