Following up to the list, as it is of general interest.
Am Donnerstag, den 02.10.2008, 18:15 -0300 schrieb Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva:
Op donderdag 02-10-2008 om 21:43 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Joachim Breitner:
BTW, what do you think of my proposal about making haskell dependencies depend on virtual packages that contain a hash of the *.hi files?
I confess at that time I couldn't understand very well what was being discussed, so I didn't followed the thread, assuming that my Debian knowledge was not enough for it. I read it again today, and I think it's a good idea. The only thing I don't get is how the broken packages are going to be rebuild automatically.
By scheduling binNMUs in a semi-automatic fashion: We would a script that lists all packages that need to be re-build, and we pass that information to the guys on debian-release.
I think the main thing that would change in this idea is the haskell-utils package, which I was working on to maintain. I've done a version[0], but maybe it worth to work on a version that already supports this, and apply the changes I've made in this new version.
Actually, this would be a big change in the Haskell package system, so maybe it could be done with the creation of the haskell team, so that we could maintain these packages together. What do you think?
Yes, a packaging team would be useful, but it needs someone to take the lead (e.g. setting up the alioth group, choosing and setting up a VCS etc.)
If we do such a big change, we should also use it to consolidate some of the packaging utilities around. For example, haskell-utils could use the dh scripts from haskell-devscripts where appropriate and drop some code, or maybe one of the two could be abandoned for the other completely.
I still haven’t seen Arjan comment on the idea with the interface hashes: Would you support such a change in the Haskell Packaging Policy?
Greetings, Joachim
Op donderdag 02-10-2008 om 23:37 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Joachim Breitner:
Am Donnerstag, den 02.10.2008, 18:15 -0300 schrieb Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva:
Op donderdag 02-10-2008 om 21:43 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Joachim Breitner:
BTW, what do you think of my proposal about making haskell dependencies depend on virtual packages that contain a hash of the *.hi files?
The only thing I don't get is how the broken packages are going to be rebuild automatically.
By scheduling binNMUs in a semi-automatic fashion: We would a script that lists all packages that need to be re-build, and we pass that information to the guys on debian-release.
This seems to be a good idea.
I think the main thing that would change in this idea is the haskell-utils package, which I was working on to maintain. I've done a version[0], but maybe it worth to work on a version that already supports this, and apply the changes I've made in this new version.
So, do you think this version should be uploaded to correct those bugs while we decide about what's coming next?
Actually, this would be a big change in the Haskell package system, so maybe it could be done with the creation of the haskell team, so that we could maintain these packages together. What do you think?
Yes, a packaging team would be useful, but it needs someone to take the lead (e.g. setting up the alioth group, choosing and setting up a VCS etc.)
Don't you want to do this?
Greetings.
Hi,
Am Donnerstag, den 02.10.2008, 19:20 -0300 schrieb Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva:
Op donderdag 02-10-2008 om 23:37 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Joachim Breitner:
I think the main thing that would change in this idea is the haskell-utils package, which I was working on to maintain. I've done a version[0], but maybe it worth to work on a version that already supports this, and apply the changes I've made in this new version.
So, do you think this version should be uploaded to correct those bugs while we decide about what's coming next?
Yes, I think we should discuss these changes more. OTOH, bumping the scripts version in haskell-utils just for the standards version sounds a bit much as well, maybe you should wait for other (minor) fixes.
Actually, this would be a big change in the Haskell package system, so maybe it could be done with the creation of the haskell team, so that we could maintain these packages together. What do you think?
Yes, a packaging team would be useful, but it needs someone to take the lead (e.g. setting up the alioth group, choosing and setting up a VCS etc.)
Don't you want to do this?
I’m hesitant whether I’ll have the time and motivation to keep a group going and motivated :-). And so far, there were not many people that would join and work in such a group. I think that at least some more of these people should be in the group for it to make sense:
$ grep-aptavail -P libghc6- -s Maintainer|sort -u Maintainer: Arjan Oosting arjan@debian.org Maintainer: Chris Lamb chris@chris-lamb.co.uk Maintainer: Eric Warmenhoven warmenhoven@debian.org Maintainer: Florian Ragwitz rafl@debian.org Maintainer: Ian Lynagh (wibble) igloo@debian.org Maintainer: Joachim Breitner nomeata@debian.org Maintainer: John Goerzen jgoerzen@complete.org Maintainer: Kari Pahula kaol@debian.org Maintainer: Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva marcot@riseup.net Maintainer: Recai Oktaş roktas@debian.org
Greetings, Joachim
Op vrijdag 03-10-2008 om 12:09 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Joachim Breitner:
Hi,
Am Donnerstag, den 02.10.2008, 19:20 -0300 schrieb Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva:
I think the main thing that would change in this idea is the haskell-utils package, which I was working on to maintain. I've done a version[0], but maybe it worth to work on a version that already supports this, and apply the changes I've made in this new version.
So, do you think this version should be uploaded to correct those bugs while we decide about what's coming next?
Yes, I think we should discuss these changes more. OTOH, bumping the scripts version in haskell-utils just for the standards version sounds a bit much as well, maybe you should wait for other (minor) fixes.
I thought about that. Is not a very big change. I've created a darcs repository for it in http://code.haskell.org/haskell-utils .
Greetings.
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